Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

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Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby MikeWall » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:01 pm

Will this Tungsten Nozzle work with V1 or V2 hotend?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dd ... m-nozzle-0
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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby Evan » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:51 am

Looks like it should work with v2

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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby John@Raise3D » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:00 am

We have not tested those yet so can't say for sure.

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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby MikeWall » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:39 am

@John
Does V2 nozzle have m6 threads?
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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby MikeWall » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:57 am

I ordered 2 Tungsten Nozzles.
I have 10 days to change my mind.
Which will show up first, V2s or W74 nozzles?
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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby MikeWall » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:30 am

Thank you
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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby rlballard » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:03 pm

Mike,
I have the V2 Hot Ends on order as well and glad you posted this on ddd. I have 4 of their nozzles on order and anxious to see how everything works out. Jetguy confirmed the compatibility with the E3D and that was enough to push me over the commitment edge. Let me know how things work if yours arrives first.

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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby firesped » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:43 pm

Not sure I can back this kickstarter, due to the fact that key information is "backer only." I don't want to have to pay to learn if it is going to be compatible.

They sent it to some guy who unboxed a nozzle, but he doesn't show it being used? seeing it in action would have been better imo.
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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby Julia Truchsess » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:38 am

Tungsten has a significantly higher thermal conductivity than brass, and hardness just under that of diamond, so theoretically it sounds pretty darned good. How well they can machine it is another question :)

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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby MikeWall » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:57 am

@john, @jetguy, Here is the tech drawing. Do you think this will fit the R3d V2 hotend?
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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby Julia Truchsess » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:08 am

I suspect it will work with the V2. I hadn't looked at the kickstarter when I posted before, they sure look beautiful. I hate the "ring", though, that will prevent using a socket-style wrench; wonder why they did that?!?

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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby John@Raise3D » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:23 am

MikeWall wrote:@john, @jetguy, Here is the tech drawing. Do you think this will fit the R3d V2 hotend?


We did use M6 thread, but ours is shorter than theirs.
There is a chance that it won't be able to tighten well.

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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby John@Raise3D » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:15 am

Jetguy wrote:I don't want to contradict official Raise 3D information but I know for a fact that since I received my N1 with the official V2 hotends, with care, the thermal barrier can be screwed in the extra 0.5mm and seal to most MK8 nozzles (basically, the above tungsten nozzles).

Yes, it takes more work, Yes, you will want to remove the entire hotend from the printer to properly install and adjust the nozzle to thermal barrier, reinstall the heatsink, put it back up in the printer and potentially need to level the nozzles and the bed.

So no, not plug and play (screw in and go), but it's also not impossible. This is why the V2 hotend is so great.
Now, if they make an E3D "style" variant of a given nozzle, that is nearer the length of the stock V2 Raise 3D threaded portion (5.5mm) and therefore a more direct replacement that might not require the adjustments to seal.

Again, most MK8 nozzles are 5mm threaded
Raise 3D and many E3D style nozzles are 5.5mm threaded


Yes, 5mm could work with some effort. The one showed in the post is 7.5mm, which is too long and may cause issues.

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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby AR_LA » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:27 pm

You could always cut it with a dremel w/ diamond cut off wheel... and probably a good amount of water to cool it.

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Re: Tungsten Premium Nozzle?

Postby AR_LA » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:12 pm

Is it shaped? or does it just need to be precision cut?

If their CAD is accurate, then it wouldn't be suitable to use precision shims as spacers either unfortunately. If they made that hex wider you might be able to try shims for adjusting shoulder screws. You could still probably try it, it just doesn't look ideal.


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