KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

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KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby FreedomRules » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:57 am

Has anyone flashed this firmware onto a Raise3d printer? If so whats your thoughts...

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby EldRick » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:55 pm

It would appear that no-one knows what you are referring to.

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby FreedomRules » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:03 pm

It would appear your right. I guess instead of wasting my time trying to get it to work with Raise3D hardware. I'll just buy a Duet2 board and hook it up and then use it with the Klipper firmware. Basically your 3D printers board just handles the movements. All the calculations are done on another machine running a Klipper master that then sends a stream of movements to the board. Allows for more advanced calculations as most 8 bit controllers take shortcuts on the calculations due to lack of process power for advanced calculations.

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby JohnSays » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:27 pm

Did you ever do this? I'm thinking of replacing the entire electronics of the N2 on one of my machines as I am speed limited by the 8-bit board.
- John

2 Raise3D N2 Duals, Bondtech BMGs, adjustable table, Panucatt SD2224 drivers, run-out sensor, thermal overload protection, Firmware 1.1.9ABH - with Lin_Advance, Palette 2 Pro, Custom E3D hot end and ultra-light carriage and printer head

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby allanzo » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:22 pm

I have been using Klipper on my N2 for the past year and I would never consider going back to Marlin at this point. You will lose the touch screen but gain a web interface, I think there are 3 or 4 choices of web interface. The print quality is so much better. You can read about the features: https://www.klipper3d.org/Features.html
You don't need to replace the Rumba, just plug a Rasp Pi into it. The Pi will do all the work. I'm using a Pi 4 with 4 gigs ram. If you want better drivers and a higher step rate, you can just connect another board to the Pi like the BigTreeTech SKR Pro and just plug the motors into that and you just have to change the config file. I use the KIAUH - Klipper Installation And Update Helper to install and update Klipper, it will make your life easier. https://github.com/th33xitus/kiauh
This site has lots of useful info on Klipper: https://klipper.info/
This site will show how to use KIAUH to install Klipper onto a Pi: https://3dp.tumbleweedlabs.com/firmware ... spberry-pi
I'm using the Panucatt SD2224 drivers on the Rumba, so if you are going to stick with the Rumba, you will need to disable Stealthchop with the jumpers on each driver.
Also start with the Rumba config for Klipper and customize it to your setup.

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby JohnSays » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:38 pm

Thank you allanzo! I suppose this means I could drop in a 32-bit board at this time as I will be ditching the touchscreen anyway.
- John

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby RafB » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:29 pm

Hi Allanzo,

Can you attach your printer.cfg file for comparison

"I'm using the Panucatt SD2224 drivers on the Rumba, so if you are going to stick with the Rumba, you will need to disable Stealthchop with the jumpers on each driver."
I don't understand well, I have the original drivers, you have to remove a jumper to use klipper on a Rumba?

Thanks in advance

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby Alex M. » Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:25 pm

Hello Allanzo-

I tried to PM you but it seems the message is stuck in my outbox, which I am assuming is from your inbox being full.(?)

We have an N2 Plus and are soon thinking of switching it over to Klipper. We plan to use the existing hardware other than a new bed, bed heater and bed thermistor. Since you have done this change I had a few questions I was hoping you could answer:

1. Did the Raise3D main board flash OK over the USB line? If not, how did you load the Klipper firmware to the main board? I ask since I have flashed Klipper to an Ender 3 V2, but the flash wouldn't work over USB so I had to flash via the SD card. However the Raise3D board doesn't have an SD card so I just wanted to check.

2. Have you tried or do you know if it's possible to revert back to Raise3D firmware after flashing to Klipper? If so, can you explain the process?

3. I think I have a starting point for the print.cfg file setup ok but would love to take a look at yours. Could you post or PM it?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Alex

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby allanzo » Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:56 pm

Sorry for the super late reply.

I attached my config file in a zip file. Please note that my printer has a lot of mods like BLTouch, AC heatbed (dimensions are different from stock) , Bondtech extruder, SD2224 drivers, filament runout sensor, right extruder fan is controllable, Reprapdiscount LCD, etc. So you have to change it to reflect your printer setup. I suggest reading everything about how to set up Klipper before you start so you understand how it works and get one thing working at a time.

RafB:
See this image posted by Jetguy, https://forum.raise3d.com/download/file ... &mode=view
I don't remember how the original drivers were set up but make sure DIP switch 3 is set to off (Stealthchop off), you have to remove the driver to see the DIP switches on the Rumba board. You will need to put it back in the same orientation or you will damage it.

Alex M:
1. I flashed the Rumba board through USB via the Rasp Pi. I used KIAUH (Klipper Installation And Update Helper) to flash it.
2. You can revert back to Marlin if you need to. You can use the Arduino software to flash it back by directly connecting to the Rumba board by USB cable. You will need to compile Marlin for your printer setup. There is a lot of info in the forums on how to compile Marlin. See this link on how to set up your environment for Arduino: https://www.geeetech.com/wiki/index.php ... nvironment
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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby RafB » Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:16 am

Hi,
Thank you for this information. Ideally I'd like to make a little tutorial so that other users can finally use a bltouch and solve this huge problem of not flat bed on Raise3D N2.
I already use Klipper on X1s and it works great! The touchscreens are defective but it's not a big loss considering the gain in functionality with KLIPPER!

Allonzo, what do you use for Bltouch support?

Thanks again for the config file

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby RafB » Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:17 am

RafB wrote:Hi,
Thank you for this information. Ideally I'd like to make a little tutorial so that other users can finally use a bltouch and solve this huge problem of not flat bed on Raise3D N2.
I already use Klipper on X1s and it works great! The touchscreens are defective but it's not a big loss considering the gain in functionality with KLIPPER!

Allonzo, what do you use for Bltouch support?

Thanks again for the config file

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby allanzo » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:09 pm

Hi,

Attached are the files I used for the BlTouch/fan mount. I can't remember where I got the files from so I can't give proper credit to the designer. I may have found them on the forum somewhere. I do remember having to take apart the printer and running a CAT5 cable to the control board since you need to run 5 extra wires for the BlTouch. The BlTouch that I'm using now is a newer one (3.1 I think) that works with the config file that I uploaded. I had a first gen one originally and the config for that was totally different so you will need to take that into consideration.
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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby RafB » Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:46 am

Thank you very much for all this information.

I think I will find quickly on the Lepine forum of connection of the lease. On the motherboard.
I will also surely change the driver to TMC 2208

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Re: KevinOConnor/klipper Firmware

Postby Alex M. » Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:45 am

Allanzo -
Thank you so much for the files and information. I should be starting our conversion next week, so this is perfect timing.

I have already setup the RPi with Mainsail / Klipper and have it connected to a BigTreeTech 7" TFT running Klipperscreen. The new touchscreen will be replacing the existing one and is a perfect fit in the opening of the printer. We only need to make new mounting brackets since the existing ones interfere with components on the new screen.


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