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retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:04 am
by r.lisci
Hello,
Can you explain to me why it does not retract at the marked point? I set "avoid retraction inside model" but also "enable retraction at bottom and top of models" each of 2 layers. In the image there is the second layer.
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It also happens on other top and bottom layers of the model.

thanks a lot

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:28 pm
by Vicky@Raise3D
Can you save your model as .idea in ideaMaker and share with us to run some test?

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:01 pm
by r.lisci
of course, here it is.
thanks

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:13 am
by Vicky@Raise3D
Do you mind share us the .gcode and .data files sliced with this .idea file?
We use our setting but cant recreate the same issue. We want to compare with your settings and result.

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:18 am
by r.lisci
thank you

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:43 pm
by r.lisci
i find the problem on all models. In the image you can see the top surface solid fill layer, there is retraction when change wall of hole, but not when move to another position.

P.S.
I don't know why on 2 of 4 hole retracts between inner and outer sheel and in the other 2 no (minimal travel of retraction set to 0.80mm)

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:39 pm
by Vicky@Raise3D
We have tried to slice with your .diea file but cant recreate the same issue.
Can you share your .gcode and .date files so that we can compare our settings with yours?

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:26 am
by r.lisci
how can create a .data file?

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:05 pm
by Vicky@Raise3D
After slicing completes, ideaMaker will create .data file together with .gcode file. You should be able to find both files under the same folder.

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:40 pm
by r.lisci
i'm able to see only gcode file.
any suggestions?

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:12 pm
by GonzoG
In printer settings, Advanced tab you can select to create *.data files

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:35 am
by r.lisci
GonzoG wrote:In printer settings, Advanced tab you can select to create *.data files

thanks

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:34 pm
by Vicky@Raise3D
Sorry for late response.
Because there is already retraction being enabled at the layer before, so there's not another retraction for the first travel for current layer.

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:45 am
by r.lisci
Hi,
Sorry but i don't understand.
I set "avoid retraction inside model" but also "enable retraction at bottom and top of models" each of 2 layer. Problem Is on the second layer. how can i solved? i must force retraction anywhere?

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:13 pm
by Vicky@Raise3D
We have run some more tests accoridng to your feedback and found a bug with display in ideaMaker related to showing Retraction with X.
If you select not showing Infill you will see the retration at the beginning or you can move the bar to the first travel.
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Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:52 pm
by r.lisci
ok, thanks a lot.
I will try with some test, but i noticed that problem while printing not from the preview, so on that travel was no retraction.

Re: retraction on top and bottom layers

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:40 am
by Vicky@Raise3D
We dont have a Delta printer on hand at the moment to test your slice but from your gcode, there's retration existing.
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