Heatup heated bed and nozzles simultaneously

[Randwic]

Hello, in Ideamker, the following option : Heatup heated bed and nozzles simultaneously is activated, but the bed waits for the end of its heating before starting the nozzle heating. What should I do to heat the 2 at the same time?

[Manuel@Raise3D]

I tested this out on a hyperspeed Pro3 while on the RaiseTouch version 1.7.6.412 and was unable to replicate this issue. I restored both the standard and hyper-speed templates in ideaMaker and ensured that "Heatup heated bed and nozzle(s) simultaneously" was enabled on the Gcode tab.

When trying both Gcode files (hyperspeed and non-hyperspeed) the bed and nozzle would heat up at the same time. I recommend ensuring that both ideaMaker and the printer are on the latest firmware and then testing this out again to see if it still occurs.

[Randwic]

I am in hyperspeed m, and the profiles are original, but I can't heat the bed and the nozzles at the same time. Is there an internal parameter in the printer menu that could block this function?

[Manuel@Raise3D]

No setting on the touchscreen can change the order of how the bed and nozzle heat up in this way, however, there is one other setting in ideaMaker that if not enabled, can lead to the setting not taking effect. This can be located in your advanced settings window under the Gcode tab at the bottom of the window. Please double-check if the outlined settings below are enabled:

[Randwic]

Thanks, i check this tommorow

[Randwic]

Hello, I checked the Ideamaker settings, and the option is active for the 2 extruders, but the heating is not done simultaneously.

[Manuel@Raise3D]

Can you provide me with the Gcode file that you're using when seeing this issue? I'd like to see what may be triggering this to happen.

As well, can you also share your printer's serial log file? This can be done by inserting a USB drive into your printer's touchscreen:
- Select the gear wheel icon on the top right of the touchscreen
- Next, select "Machine" then "More settings"
- Lastly, tap on "Serial port log" and then tap on the "export" selection (select the inserted USB)

[Randwic]

I'll send it to you tomorrow.

[Randwic]

Please find the requested files:

As for the Gcode, I can't put it in full because the file is too large. As for the Gcode, I can't put it in full because the file is too large. So I've put the beginning of the Gcode here, so let me know if it's enough.

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;Sliced by ideaMaker 4.4.1.7980, 2023-05-24 08:16:39 UTC+0200
;Dimension: 300.000 300.000 605.000 0.400 0.400
;Plate Shape: 0
;Origin Center: 0
;Extruder Offset #1: 0.000 0.000
;Filament Diameter #1: 1.750
;Filament Diameter #2: 1.750
;Filament Compensation #1: 88.00
;Filament Compensation #2: 88.00
;Filament Density #1: 1070.00
;Filament Density #2: 1210.00
;Filament Type #1: HYPER-SPEED-ABS
;Filament Type #2: HYPER-SPEED-PLA
;Filament Name #1: [Raise3D] Hyper Speed ABS 1.75mm
;Filament Name #2: [Raise3D] Hyper Speed PLA 1.75mm
;Firmware: RepRapFirmware
;Bounding Box: 8.189 291.760 6.069 293.960 0.000 210.100
;Model Gap: 0.000
M221 T0 S88.00
M140 S90.00
M104 T0 S250.00
M109 T0 S250.00
T0
M190 S90.00
M572 D0 S0.03
M572 D1 S0.03
G21
G90
M82
M107
G28
G1 Z0 F500
G92 E0
G1 Z10 F400
G1 X60 Y0 F3000
G1 Z0.2 F400
G1 X140 Y0 E12 F200
G1 Z5 E15 F200
G92 E0
G1 F12000.0
M117 Printing...

[Manuel@Raise3D]

The provided serial log file does show the heating data, however, the bed doesn't look to be set to heat in any of the instances where the hotends were heated. The Gcode file being used can be of greater help here as it can directly confirm a few things for me (rather than the start Gcode). Since the file attachment is too large for the forum responses, can you share it via a file-sharing service like google drive, dropbox, or wetransfer.com? (ensure the link is set to public as we are not allowed to make accounts on these 3rd party sites)

[Randwic]

I'll give you a Gcode for a smaller part because the results are the same: the use and the tray don't heat up at the same time.

[Manuel@Raise3D]

I'll give you a Gcode for a smaller part because the results are the same: the use and the tray don't heat up at the same time.

Yes, that works too as we just want to see what's causing this strange behavior.

[Randwic]

I'll give you a Gcode for a smaller part because the results are the same: the use and the tray don't heat up at the same time.

Yes, that works too as we just want to see what's causing this strange behavior.

[Randwic]

So, strangely enough, with the original profile, hyper speed, PLA, the nozzle and bed heat up at the same time.

[Manuel@Raise3D]

So, strangely enough, with the original profile, hyper speed, PLA, the nozzle and bed heat up at the same time.

In the Gcode file provided, the bed and nozzle are set to heat up at the same time, however, I did notice something about our material profiles that may be the cause of what you're seeing.

With the ideaMaker HyperSpeed toggle enabled, the "Premium ABS" material has its default template with just the bed to heat up first. When selecting"Hyperspeed ABS" as your material, that's when the default template sets the bed and nozzle to heat up at the same time. So if "Premium ABS" is selected as the material and you're using the default template, the bed will heat up to temperature and afterward, the nozzle will begin heating. (both hyper and non-h7yper PLA templates have the bed and nozzle heating up simultaneously)

[Randwic]

Is this a problem you're going to solve? What parameter causes the bed and nozzle not to heat up at the same time in the Premium Abs profile?

[Manuel@Raise3D]

Is this a problem you're going to solve? What parameter causes the bed and nozzle not to heat up at the same time in the Premium Abs profile?

As mentioned, the default selection is set to heat up the bed first if you're using "premium ABS" as the material. If a change were to be implemented, the default selection would just need to be changed to heat up both the bed and nozzle simultaneously and not one at a time. This has been forwarded to our ideaMaker team for review and they will apply the change in an update or let me know if there's a reason behind the bed needing to heat up first.