Help with decision

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ajruger
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Help with decision

Postby ajruger » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:54 pm

I am having a really hard time deciding which printer to purchase. I have been looking at the Raise3D N2, Ultimaker 3, Airwolf Axiom, Fusion F400, Zortrax M300 ect. I think I narrowed it down to either the Raise3D N2 or the Ultimaker 3 but am having problems deciding. I know coming here I would more likely get biased opinions but just curious what your thoughts are and why you went with the Raise over other printers. Also the stuff I have read about upgrading the bed and extruders. How important is it to do these uprgrades?

thank you for any help

Rogman
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Re: Help with decision

Postby Rogman » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:51 pm

all the printers you have listed all print very well, except for the Airwolf. I have worked with a lot of different 3d-printers and a lot turns out to be personal preference. I like a direct drive extruder compared to the Bowden on the all the others. The bed upgrade is nice but I like to tinker so I did it. The Bondtech extruder, I did, but I had already toyed around buying those to put on a 10' tall delta for 3D Platform and loved them. so the bondtech is on my 3 raise printers, 2 rostock max v2 printers and Ultimaker2. The help I have gotten from Raise3D team is great and was a big factor in buying the Raise when they were available as a preorder after coming of Kickstarter. Sooooooo my personal opinion BUY the RAISE3D you wont be unhappy. ;)

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Re: Help with decision

Postby Rogman » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:57 pm


ajruger
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Re: Help with decision

Postby ajruger » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:10 pm

I really appreciate your reply. I will probably be ordering the N2 plus soon. I need to figure out what parts and filament to purchase also.
thank you

Rogman
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Re: Help with decision

Postby Rogman » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:49 pm

I have put Raise3D, Esun, makerbot, hatchbox, octave, matterhackers, maker geeks, and polymaker filaments through mine with no problems. Like I said before I like the Bondtech extruder but it is not necessary. I would recommend this extruder gear if you don't do the bondtech upgrade https://www.3dp2go.com/38-teeth-steel-extruder-drive-gear-id-5mm-p-450.html?zenid=u4vi05ujcpodbgetk2fipjndi7 jetguy actually linked this in another post and it works great. A co-worker just unboxed his N2 two days ago and printed some great prints with no mods at all. Happy printing and I know you will enjoy the Raise3D N2+ !!

Jetguy
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Re: Help with decision

Postby Jetguy » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:27 pm

Here are some examples printed on my N1 and N2
Projects like the foam dart launcher https://www.flickr.com/photos/90025904@ ... 1671703242
The BCN3D Robotic arm https://www.flickr.com/photos/90025904@ ... 1705450201
Sick, sick 4 color prints using the Mosaic palette https://www.flickr.com/photos/90025904@ ... 3537293506
Printed on the Raise 3D N1 https://www.flickr.com/photos/90025904@ ... 937955805/

When you get the Raise 3D N series, the first thing is you notice you got twice the machine of any other brand. There is more metal, more aluminum, more steel in every Raise 3D printer than any other brand. It's all amazingly CNC machined. This frame and mechanical structure is just the tip of the iceberg. Raise 3D printers don't skimp on the most important foundation of the electronics, the power supply. Only genuine Meanwell premium power supplies and massively over rated for the printer. It's the rock that makes the foundation. The usability of the screen and network connectivity is far above anything else I've tried. There simply is no equal on the market.
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Jetguy
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Re: Help with decision

Postby Jetguy » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:54 pm

Here you go, another just amazing print with extreme overhang printed completely without support material.
This is a hollow half moon for this project, 3D Printed Lunar Phase clock http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1891599
I did a custom cut of the original STL here http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1929844

This was printed using 0.10mm layer height, 2 shells, 0% infill, 5 roof layers and 0 floor layers.
Again, printed with no support material at all, the overhang performance was just astounding.
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ajruger
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Re: Help with decision

Postby ajruger » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:33 pm

Thanks for the info. Is there a nozzle that is solid steel rather than brass plated? Also have you printed any carbon fiber filament like NylonX?

Thanks

Jetguy
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Re: Help with decision

Postby Jetguy » Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:16 pm

Since the heater block used M6 threaded nozzles, E3D nozzles are compatible and there are dozens of aftermarket brands that should work (screw in, seal, and generally work), however, it's impossible for me to guarantee a brand or specific one without also testing it.

Raise 3D partnered with MicroSwiss to make the custom nozzles that matched the stock brass nozzles. Raise 3D literally provided the CAD files to MicroSwiss under agreement. To date, nobody else has stepped up from the aftermarket nozzles standpoint to partner in the same way.

There are examples of others trying other brands such as the Solex matchless but I haven't seen the details http://shop.bondtech.se/ec/kits/3d-sole ... ium-4.html and here is the search for those threads search.php?keywords=solex&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

Again, with a fair bit of certainty I can say an E3D would screw in and seal and should work. I have not tested it personally, but have done more than my fair of trying different things with this printer, so that's saying I know the mechanics pretty well.
http://e3d-online.com/v6-Extra-Nozzle-S ... 5mmx0.40mm
Just keep in mind a couple a things
#1 it's M6 threaded by 5.5mm of threads
#2 it seals to the face of the thermal barrier as both screw into the heater block
#3 stainless is a poor conductor of heat.

I know that MatterHackers has a fair selection of genuine e3D and a fairly good set of compatible nozzles of all various types.
https://www.matterhackers.com/store/pri ... ?t=Nozzles

Don't forget to set the Z mechanical switch adjuster if you change to a different nozzle because there might be a minor difference in final length.
https://www.raise3d.com/pages/wiki

jcamper
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Re: Help with decision

Postby jcamper » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:37 pm

AJ, may I ask what part of Tennessee you are from?

ajruger
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Re: Help with decision

Postby ajruger » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:50 pm

Memphis area. you?

jcamper
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Re: Help with decision

Postby jcamper » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:00 pm

I'm only about 90 miles from you then. We will have to network together

I got my N2 plus on order

Did you ever order one?


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