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AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:13 pm
by Korni
Hello,

can it damage the Pro2 when it is switched over the FRITZ!DECT 200 https://en.avm.de/products/fritzdect/fritzdect-200/ socket instead of the on / off switch?

THX

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:27 am
by Vicky@Raise3D
It may bring issues, as it will direct cut the power off without going through the original power switch with fuse instead. It may kill the fuse in power switch if you do it frequently and can lead to potential damage to the power supply.

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:48 am
by Korni
OK.

Which top designer has designed the on / off switch DOWN on the BACKSIDE ..... ??? :-(

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:03 am
by Lorenzo
I agree that the on/off switch is in a bad location, but I don't see a better one from the get go. On the sides it may be inadvertently pushed while operating and I believe the on/off switch is part of the stock power supply, much like the one in personal computers.

Kind regards,

Lorenzo

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:41 am
by jean-claude
jean-claude wrote:Tue Nov 21, 2017
… I have a simple question : Is flip the power switch to off is equal to removing the powerplug from the powerwall socket ?
Thanks

Vicky@Raise3D wrote:Wed Nov 22, 2017
Yes, you can directly unplug the power plug to cut off the power, works the same as flip the power switch.

And now :
Vicky@Raise3D wrote:It may bring issues, as it will direct cut the power off without going through the original power switch with fuse instead. It may kill the fuse in power switch if you do it frequently and can lead to potential damage to the power supply.

I take it that there is a difference there too (n2-Pro) and that it is another reason not to change my machine. This feature of being able to turn it on and off remotely is very convenient.

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:27 am
by Noren
I have used the Elgato Eve since day one with my printer. Never any problem.

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:07 am
by jean-claude
Yes me too on my N2+ (CHACON 3012 is "same" device) !
I do not understand the problem what particular feature would have the switch included in the power of the PRO not to cause the problem that is mentioned?

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:34 pm
by Noren
Using these devices are like actually just pulling the plug. And that’s usually not good for electronics. . But since the on/off switch at the back of the printer is mechanical and basically does the same. I think that Raise3D is worried you might blow a fuse. But on the other hand this printer is built to cope with loss of power so it should be able to handle it.

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:51 pm
by Korni
Noren wrote:..... But on the other hand this printer is built to cope with loss of power so it should be able to handle it.


Exactly .... and therefore I do not understand the concerns.

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:49 pm
by jean-claude
Noren wrote:Using these devices are like actually just pulling the plug. And that’s usually not good for electronics.

Yes, it's the same thing ! and in most cases the same switch !
And Yes : with electronics the risk is when in switch on or switch off phase, but you have to switch ;)

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:52 pm
by jean-claude
Korni wrote:Exactly .... and therefore I do not understand the concerns.


it's just not to take risks
but no risk no money :D :D :D

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:42 am
by JamesW
Is there something that Raise3D would recommend?
...please....?

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:50 pm
by Vicky@Raise3D
jean-claude wrote:
jean-claude wrote:Tue Nov 21, 2017
… I have a simple question : Is flip the power switch to off is equal to removing the powerplug from the powerwall socket ?
Thanks

Vicky@Raise3D wrote:Wed Nov 22, 2017
Yes, you can directly unplug the power plug to cut off the power, works the same as flip the power switch.

And now :
Vicky@Raise3D wrote:It may bring issues, as it will direct cut the power off without going through the original power switch with fuse instead. It may kill the fuse in power switch if you do it frequently and can lead to potential damage to the power supply.

I take it that there is a difference there too (n2-Pro) and that it is another reason not to change my machine. This feature of being able to turn it on and off remotely is very convenient.


The power switch of N2 and Pro2 are the same.
We think that for urgent use, unplug the power cable or cutting off power directly from powerplug for urgent use was fine. As by years working with N series printers, we only met few cases with dead fuse due to power off issue.
But out of safety, we recommend to power off the printer by power switch for daily use.

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:56 am
by jean-claude
JamesW wrote:Is there something that Raise3D would recommend?
...please....?

:D
As I think I understood : In daily use, only the switch provided by RAISE.
But, just my two (€) cents: you can order a 5 Axis ROBOT that will push on the switch of your RAISE. (take a look at www.kuka.com) You could save a fuse every 5 years.
Or, then, but that I do not recommend because it is not authorized by RAISE and you lose the precious guarantee: you replace the fuse by a resettable model (breaker).
Or, without respect for the planet and your wallet, leave it on all the time except in case of fire of course! In this case, you can remove the wall socket directly.

But, as a reminder, others than me, use a wall socket on / off WIFI without problem from the beginning.
I hope it helps you.

Re: AVM FRITZ!DECT 200 ?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:30 am
by Noren
What I don’t get is why we still don’t have any kind of standby/sleep mode that turns off everything that can be turned off. Lights/fans/heatbed/motors.